Heathen Hof: British Hate Prosecutions & Countering Pessimism (5-29-18)

Tonight Heathen Vegan talks about the recent wave of court cases and convictions in the UK. Trying to sort the real from the “fake”. He also takes calls from Ben from Denmark, Chris H and a friendly caller from Oklahoma. We go on to discuss the overall “clash of civilizations” plan and possible solutions for countering the current threat.

Relevent links:
https://antisemitism.uk/definition/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20935502

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Anthony Roberts
2 years ago

These “figureheads” are purely there to confuse, distract and of course, provoke. If they support, or never mention jews/israel, work with known controlled oppositon characters, or are just unsavoury degenerates, then logic dictates they are the enemy of our folk. Renegade is the only pro-White, pro-family group that jews haven’t managed to infiltrate and subvert, thanks to Kyle & Sinead’s strong leadership. We have to remain vigilant, but keep moving forward. I’m all for having our own political party or lobby groups, but you are looking at wasted money, energy, and more important, time, if you use the current establishment route. It is still a rigged system, once inside. They have an army of masons. We have to forge our own pathway. Get thinking bright… Read more »

Heathen vegan
Reply to  Anthony Roberts
2 years ago

Thanks Anthony, Firstly, Id like to say I understand your concern regarded the wasted time and effort working within the system. BUT, how much time are wasting now, by doing little to nothing? In the show, I believe I did also mention, I didn’t think they would be successful, if we judge success by normal standards. I will though clarify what I said here, as I was a little rushed and ranty, as I wanted to get back to callers. The point of this action, as I said would not be measured by “normal successes”. It would be to highlight our plight and cause and give us certain protections and legitimacy, whilst showing hypocrisy. For this to work, it would take an enormous amount of… Read more »

Scarlett
2 years ago

I am very interested in finding out more about the private prosecution you spoke of. I am unaware of anything close to its equivalent here in the states. Perhaps civil suite, such as in the case of OJ Simpson, but even then, only financial penalty can be applied.

Heathen vegan
Reply to  Scarlett
2 years ago

Hey Scarlett I am no expert on British law, let alone American. to see if these things are possible, I would look at maybe animal rights groups and alike. Even if you they are possible, like in the UK, where you can get a criminal prosecution, IF the CPS decides its worthy. There is still the financial problems with such things, which is something I was meant to mention in the show. It is very expensive and would for us give us limited, if any “normal successes” as I said to Anthony. This again shows how our justice system is only for those with the money, the rest of us have to suck it up. This is why I mentioned the importance of getting together… Read more »

Skalgarir
2 years ago

Great set m’man. The bullshit terms: racism, hatespeech and intolerance, are purely, only and solely for use AGAINST WHITE people. They use the other so called “terrorists” as a method of scaring the public into a state of shock, but the actual legislation is only for Whites, and is only ACTED against Whites.

These terms are so vague, but the theme remains that it is only acted upon Whites.

Heathen vegan
Reply to  Skalgarir
2 years ago

Thanks mate, And I agree entirely, I was going to cover the hypocrasy a little more in detail, but because (for which I was happy to have) I had callers had to shorten that part. This was the point though of my entire show, we need to not be defending against such absurd accusations, with “I didnt do it”, more challenging them wholesale. These clearly lop sided and vague terms, being used in a court of law to convict people is clearly against any idea of “justice”. Take the “anti semitic” guidelines……. If we were to accept them, then everyone and their mother is an anti semite, you cannot defend against such an accusation by reasoning with it. You MUST challenge the ground it stands… Read more »

WhiteWolf
Reply to  Skalgarir
2 years ago

It’s wrongspeech not hate speech. Anti-Whites routinely call pro-Whites by the term “White supremacists” for a reason. Until pro-Whites learn to use language the same way we’ll always struggle.

Yeah I know wrongspeech is still negative but it shows how Orwellian the laws against free speech are.

Sam
Reply to  Skalgarir
2 years ago

Yes, these words are only used in areas of the world in which White people exist as a majority. I’m not sure they are used in eastern Europe so much though. However, “sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me”, is a well known saying for a reason. Either we stop being afraid of words and start using our intelligence to free our mind controlled people, or we are going down as the most pussy race in history, having been genocided by scary words. BY SCARY WORDS. NOT EVEN A PUNCH. I don’t care about the corrupt people in power. They are meaningless, transient. What’s not transient is our people. Our genetic makeup. Our race. Our millennia of beautiful history… Read more »

Mr Pajo
2 years ago

Very good show. You certainly put some meat on those bones, HV. Whatever the case as far as who’s an agent, and I think there’s at least one, even though I’m pretty sure Jez Turner is legit. They have ways of baiting the defendant to say too much in regards to why JT would mention Jack the Ripper etc. It was always strongly suspected Tommy Robinson was a character but what you pointed out about his Paul Harris passport and the Judge’s remarks pretty much confirms it. Some of these cases are orchestrated to ‘educate’ the onlookers. Most people/revisionists/truthers etc would have no idea about any newly suggested laws against ‘anti-Semitism’ if it wasn’t for some of these cases. An environment of self-censorship is created… Read more »

Heathen vegan
Reply to  Mr Pajo
2 years ago

Thanks Mr Pajo. My mind is not made up on either Jez or Alison, but Tommy, I have no doubt. Sadly it is the environment we live in that we have to question everything we see. Even though, they have sown the seeds of distrust among our “movement”, we have to be cautious. People like “Tommy” suck up so much of our time, focus and funds, it the sad reality. Even me having to try to warn people about him, took up some of my time and focus……… And as for “what do I know” , I don’t think anyone is hundred percent sure of anything anymore. The show was supposed to focus more on what it all means for people like us, than to… Read more »

Joan
2 years ago

What is confusing about that Jez Turner trial? Speaking of Jack the Ripper must have not been the only thing they discussed in it. Even if it was, it would make sense to focus on somewhat trivial things such as those murders from the 1800s rather than bring light to, for example, the topics of Turner’s talks of crimes and societal tyranny of today by jewry. Groups will use a private organization/person to instigate a lawsuit then go public, that’s how it usually goes everywhere. Its foolish to insinuate that some people are “shills” just from comments. There are many voices, many levels of knowledge, ego etc. When you “question” things, you better have solid proof for the questioning, not just a hunch or a… Read more »

Ross
Reply to  renegade
2 years ago

As far as Alison Chabloz is concerned, and I can say this through attending three of her trial dates and talking with her in person, she comes across as absolutely genuine . I saw her stand in court and look the Jews in eye and not back down one bit. She said , in the dock under cross examination, that the holocaust should be examined forensically and scientifically by independent sources to get to the truth. Her defence was absolutely not that she wrote and sang these songs in vengeance of her being sacked from her job. Her defence was that she could not cause offence by uploading these songs on YouTube because the person watching the video would have had to voluntarily clicked on… Read more »

Heathen vegan
Reply to  Ross
2 years ago

Thanks for the info Ross, As I stated in the show, I did not have time to go through all the court proceedings. Most of the outlets that reported on the case cite, that Ms Chabloz sacking “provoked” her to make the songs. Which led me to believe that the judge when summing up highlighted this, or at least was something mentioned in the prosecutions ending statement. So regardless of if this was her main defence, her words, as they tell you when you are arrested were used against her, and probably heavily influenced the juries decision. I do understand though, in such a situation the prosecution is going to try and trap you and because of nerves and inexperience, it can be hard to… Read more »

Ross
Reply to  Heathen vegan
2 years ago

HI Heathen, This was a magistrates court trial , therefore, no jury. The charge against Alison was ‘three charges of sending obscene material by public communication networks and two alternative charges of causing obscene material to be sent’……..Thus the direction of her defence. Though, of course, the jews tried to turn the trial into a holocaust denial and anti-semite charge. here are some very salient statements Alison said in the dock under cross examination: ….”I think there should be an official scientific and forensic investigation.I doubt very much that a murder case would be brought to these courts without forensic investigation.”…..”I would say that the so-called holocaust has been used to sustain the criminal state of Israel – it is used as a foundation myth.”…..”By… Read more »

Heathen vegan
Reply to  Ross
2 years ago

Thanks again Ross, and it was a pity, you were not able to call in. I am still interested in how they got Alison to say that her being fired “provoked” the songs. Alison must of said something. as I thought the judge did use this in their closing statement (below) Which again as I thought meant this was pivotal to the guilty verdict. “Ms Chabloz also blames others (unspecified) for the fact that she lost an earlier job on a cruise ship and, have considered her evidence in some detail, this court considers that it is not unreasonable to infer that her actions ay be driven by her as some sort of revenge for the said loss of job”. Also, although it was a… Read more »

Heathen vegan
Reply to  Joan
2 years ago

Firstly, I did not say he was a “shill”, I simply questioned an aspect of his court hearing. There was much I could of said, if I wanted to take the root of speculative accusations. I even stated on the show, I didn’t wish to do this, but there is info out if people want to look. “when you queston things, you better have solid proof for the questioning”. I dont think you understand the nature of “to question” something. I am perfectly within my right to question peoples actions. In fact isnt that the point of all these court cases? To not allow us to question? As for the part of his hearing I did question, the bit about “jack the ripper”. Why if… Read more »

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