Thule Thanksgiving w/ Troublemakers 11-28-13

Part 2 of Wild Wednesday – As the stream enters into Thanksgiving Thursday, German Markus calls into the live stream. Zapoper, Gov, and MrsSledge soon drop from the call, with Sieg and Heks remaining. Markus talks with us about a wide variety of issues regarding the plight and the fight of the German people, as well as the white race as a whole.

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Markus
6 years ago

Kyle,

You asked me about the NPD. They are better than I reported. They do what is possible for the German people.

I shouldn’t have pointed out possible difficulties but report the good they do. NPD speaks up in the Landtag of Saxony and Mecklenburg-Vorpommern.

My point was that we need to get rid of the whole BRD occupation construct within the German Reich and the NPD works within the “legal” frame of the BRD.

6 years ago

POWERFUL. Loved hearing from Markus. I hope he is a guest/interviewed on Renegade soon. Renegade Revolution Worldwide!!! White Man March Worldwide!!!

Reply to  Bill Rhyes
6 years ago

White Pride Worldwide March In March !!!

Holte
6 years ago

Excellent discussion once the pissheads shut up. Nice to hear a fellow European speaking up and from the most oppressed country no less. I agree with Bill, one of you should interview Marcus, he has a good radio presence and interesting things to say.

6 years ago

I would like for you to see the words of Markus (below), this guy to whom you are genuflecting. At first I had thought he was Hadding Scott himself. Now I guess that Hadding Scott is simply promoting this guy, who is similar to himself. Hadding is a kind of guy who rebelled into Nazi identification as a teenager and then never bothered to grow out of it. As for Markus, he is impervious, and probably supplied with encouragement to persist in being the unreasonable ass that he is by the likes of Hadding (e.g. Hadding will tell him that I can only make “ad hominum” arguments against him because I called him an ass). However, take a look at the way this ass talks… Read more »

Markus
Reply to  DanielS
6 years ago

Dude, I had a long discussion with you before and will not do so again. The points that I made were valid and based on linguistic and historicsl fact. You left half of Carolyn’s and my discussion out and you portray Prussians as genocidal Pole murderers which is absolutely baseless. (Prussia had many centuries time if she ever wanted to exterminate Poles, but never did so). On the other hand, Poles expelled 15 million Prussians from their homeland and many 100,000’s died in the process AFTER 1945! You seem to have a problem with Prussia. I might remind you that Prussia is a German state that covers most of West-North-Central and East-Germany and a large part is administered by Poland in the Russian occupation zone… Read more »

6 years ago

Daniels says, Thank goodness. Markus says: “Dude, I had a long discussion with you before and will not do so again. The points that I made were valid and based on linguistic and historicsl fact. You left half of Carolyn’s and my discussion” Only for brevity’s sake. I could have just as well included the whole thing. “out and you portray Prussians as genocidal Pole murderers absolutely baseless.” There is an important negative implication in calling yourself “a Prussin” because it is a non existent state which would portend to take over Poland (and necessarily to kill anyone in the way as did Hitler in his devotion to Friedrich the (not so) Great – Prussian imperialist, whose violent take over of ancient Polish territory and… Read more »

Markus
Reply to  DanielS
6 years ago

Italians are innately more Romantic (Romanic race) than Germans. Nigerians are innately faster than any other race. Why would I call them asses if they would point out the obvious? Prussia is an occupied state, in part by the Federal Republic of Germany, partly by Russia (which is mostly administered by Poland). An expelled Palestinian is still a Palestinian, even if his country Palestine is occupied and defunct by Israeli Jewish aggression, and most of his people got expelled, is he not? “It is upheld (viz., e.g. resolution of the Federal Constitutional Court, 1956-08-17, 1 BvB 2/51, BverfGE 5, 85 [126]) that the German Reich has outlasted the collapse of 1945 and has never gone under or fallen, neither through capitulation nor through the exertion… Read more »

6 years ago

Nor has Poland relinquished its claim to nationhood, including its ancient capital of Poznan and other places taken by Prussian imperialism. “Italians are innately more Romantic (Romanic race) than Germans. Nigerians are innately faster than any other race. Why would I call them asses if they would point out the obvious? Prussia is an occupied state, in part by the Federal Republic of Germany, partly by Russia (which is mostly administered by Poland).” Prussia was not an occupied state after World War One. Places that they had taken from Poland were fought for returned to Poland. “An expelled Palestinian is still a Palestinian, even if his country Palestine is occupied and defunct by Israeli Jewish aggression, and most of his people got expelled, is he… Read more »

Markus
Reply to  DanielS
6 years ago

What makes you think, I want to kill other Europeans? I never advocated that. Germany focused on the common enemy of Europeans, when Poland was busy taking orders from American, British and French Jewry not to EVEN TALK to a brother nation.

I don’t drink at all. I don’t use profane language. You project a lot. Are you Jewish?

6 years ago

What makes me think that you’d have no problem with that is your absolute commitment to a notion that Third Reich and Hitler had a flawlessly innocent program. That makes me think that you would have no problem with killing other Europeans. “What makes you think, I want to kill other Europeans? I never advocated that. Germany focused on the common enemy of Europeans” Poland, Belarus and Ukraine had the same enemies. The reason that that Hitler did not care was because he wanted their land and because he had a reverence for the imperialism of Friedrich the Great – a Prussian imperialism with regard to Poland, that you apparently share in with your identification as a Prussian – the pugnaciousness of the Teutonic Knights,… Read more »

6 years ago

Might I clarify a few issues. First, Markus is not “Hadding”. Please don’t insult him and play silly internet games like that. As to Poland, Poland played a silly and dangerous geo-political game in late 1938 and into 1939 and lost. Poland was actually saying they would march all the way to Berlin. Poles were both stupid and arrogant, a fatal combination when you are geographically located between Germany and the Soviet Union and neither really likes your attitude. Poland still is delusional and self important, one need only listen to their statements, they have not changed since 1938/39. Poland was one of the Nations that allowed secret CIA torture facilities. I will say, the Poles put up a much stronger fight than France. The… Read more »

6 years ago

DanielS responds to Rodney Martin Rodney Martin says: December 2, 2013 at 12:25 pm “Might I clarify a few issues. First, Markus is not “Hadding”.” I know that now. I had only thought it possible before. “Please don’t insult him and play silly internet games like that.” This guy is so insulting, and so dangerous, in his the way his communicative style would tend to instigate reciprocally escalating diatribe, that it is difficult to not respond to what amount to his (terrible) insults with insults. “As to Poland, Poland played a silly and dangerous geo-political game in late 1938 and into 1939 and lost.” Nazi Germany played a far bigger and more foolish Political game and lost. “Poland was actually saying they would march all… Read more »

Markus
Reply to  DanielS
6 years ago

The borders are not final at all. The current situation in Germany is that the 4 Allies occupy Germany in its 1937 borders. You can read this in their SHARF laws. And the 1919 borders are illegal since Germany never ratified the border changes. Hitler was the first one willing with a very good deal for Poland. Hitler put the historical positions of the corridor into perspective and offered it to Poland, so they’d finally stop their offensive position. Danzig was to become culturally German but economically Polish or entirely German with Polish sea access in Gdingen. Therewhile the Poles battle cried, Danzig and Königsberg will be ours, we will force the Germans back to the Rhine. Pommerania and East-Prussia have been built solely by… Read more »

6 years ago

Typo

“they were not far from wrong” – should read, were not far from correct.

6 years ago

Daniels Responds to Markus’s interEuropean war mongering. “Markus says: Markus December 2, 2013 at 7:27 pm The borders are not final at all.” And yo wonder why I consider you infuriating? You are going to start another world war with the same inter European animus and destruction.Your way of talking is bound to instigate reciprocally escalating diatribe. It is extremely dangerous and very hard to avoid getting sucked into. The bottom line, Markus, you have no judgment, no imagination, no real decency. You are the kind of person who perhaps should have a drink and a mushroom. “ The current situation in Germany is that the 4 Allies occupy Germany in its 1937 borders. You can read this in their SHARF laws.” I don’t need… Read more »

Markus
Reply to  DanielS
6 years ago

Under International Law, the winner doesn’t make the rules. That’s why you have the Hague Convention and Geneva Convention. The non-German world just doesn’t care about them very much. And by that, Germany didn’t lose any war, WW2 in particular. Only a peace treaty between the war parties would determine the winner, loser or a draw and that treaty is pending. Poland can negotiate with it’s Eastern neighbors to get some of that land back if it likes, but the fact is, legally it merely adminsters Russia’s German occupation zone. Whether you like to read the SHAEF laws that guarantee Poland stewardship over German territory or not. Keep blaming Hitler like the MSM does. You don’t get much sympathy from people who know the truth.… Read more »

6 years ago

Daniels responds to technokraut “Markus says: December 3, 2013 at 3:29 am Under International Law, the winner doesn’t make the rules. That’s why you have the Hague Convention and Geneva Convention. The non-German world just doesn’t care about them very much. And by that, Germany didn’t lose any war, WW2 in particular. Only a peace treaty between the war parties would determine the winner, loser or a draw and that treaty is pending” As I have said, Markus, you can’t put your technokraut bullshit past me. “Poland can negotiate with it’s Eastern neighbors to get some of that land back if it likes, but the fact is, legally it merely adminsters Russia’s German occupation zone.” The world has suffered enough for your sheer logic and… Read more »

Markus
Reply to  DanielS
6 years ago

Poland invaded Danzig on 8/30/1939 and penetrated the city for years before that. That’s just quitly brushed under the rug, so “Nazi-Germany” as you and the other German haters call it, can be blamed for the war and everything fits with today’s Jewish world view.

You saying “Nazi” says it all. I got it. I won’t respond to any other of your statements anymore, since you won’t accept details and the rule of law anyway as subject of judgment.

I totally got it now. An uncontrolled emotional outburst everytime, reason comes into play.

Am Ende steht der Sieg

6 years ago

DanielS responds to Markus’ intransigent and absurdly dishonest Hitler worship. “Poland invaded Danzig on 8/30/1939 and penetrated the city for years before that.” You lying sack of… And what did Poland supposedly do in this invastion? “ That’s just quitly brushed under the rug, so “Nazi-Germany” as you and the other German haters call it” No No, I am not a German hater. I use the term Nazi to distinguish between normal German nationalists, including ones who do not see Jewish interess as coinciding with theirs, as opposed to those of the rogue regime that was Nazism (rather a mirror image of the Talmud, as GW puts it). “ can be blamed for the war and everything fits with today’s Jewish world view.” Hitler has… Read more »

Markus
Reply to  DanielS
6 years ago

If you’d actually do some research in the archives, you’d find that Poland started Mobilization on 3/23/39 and General Mobilization on 8/30/1939, including border crossings to Germany and Danzig.

Furthermore, Poland shot at German civilian Lufthansa airplanes from Germany proper to East-Prussia. And don’t forget to find the battle cries and warmongering publications in Polish newspapers and at military ceremonies.

But you rather go along the line that Hitler wanted to conquer the world and everyone would speak German by now if the wonderful Allies hadn’t stop Germany’s brutal and unprovoked, viscious attack on the eternal innocent Poles.

6 years ago

There was no border to Danzig/Gdansk: Poland had access as well. They had a sanctioned defensive position at Westerplatte. They saw what Hitler was obviously up to – after he took all of Czechoslovakia – and they began preparing for defense. Markus says: December 3, 2013 at 6:48 am “If you’d actually do some research in the archives, you’d find that Poland started Mobilization on 3/23/39 and General Mobilization on 8/30/1939, including border crossings to Germany and Danzig.” There was no border to Danzig/Gdansk: Poland had access as well. They had a sanctioned defensive position at Westerplatte. They saw what Hitler was obviously up to – after he took all of Czechoslovakia – and they began preparing for defense. “Furthermore, Poland shot at German civilian… Read more »

6 years ago

Daniel, you are a text book example of 2 things:
1) You can’t fix stupid
2) Polish arrogance and stupidity

By the way, Poland lost the war, Germany lost the war, Britain lost the war, the USA lost the war, Western Civilization lost the war. The Jews won the war. The Poles have no actual right to Danzig, the Corridor, West Prussia, et al. Poland today is a Nation of fools and idiots who have the most over blown sense of self importance in Europe and are entitled to nothing they have. Poland has contributed NOTHING to Europe.

Fishing Pole
6 years ago

If DanielS is a typical example of a pole I can see clearly why ANYONE would want to shoot them right in the face – just to make then STFU!!! Man that guy can go on and on and on and on and on……

6 years ago

Rodney, perhaps you project the fact that your stupidity cannot be fixed, nor can your arrogance be quelled. Rodney Martin says: “Daniel, you are a text book example of 2 things: 1) You can’t fix stupid” You have resorted to ad hominem because your arguments have been so easily demonstrated wrong and beyond that, immoral – not merely immoral, but immoral to the interests of all Whites. “2) Polish arrogance and stupidity” This is the kind of malice that people like you would circulate in America, its gaining some currency as Poles are a vast minority compared to Germans there. Once I saw Poland and experienced the people, an indignant rage came over me, to realize that I had been reticent about my part Polish… Read more »

Markus
Reply to  DanielS
6 years ago

Poland massacred 1,000’s from 1918-1939, expelled 100,000’s, installed concentration camps (the first in Europe), crossed the border to Germany and Danzig to kill Germans.

Poland’s clergy, military, and media advocated to kill Germans and to force Germans behind the Oder River. (Yes, many Jews in charge, so don’t deny their Propaganda and actions).

Poland proclaimed itself as Savior of Europe against Germany’s barbarism.

Competing on the intellectual level for dominance, was and is not an option for Poles. And a gentlemen war, one-on-one, neither.

Shame on Poland. And shame on you to continue spreading the lies. The Germans suffered enough. Spitting Poles in the own ranks are not needed.

Poland wanted to save Europe by attacking Germany and cleanse the Corridor. Congratulations.

http://de.metapedia.org/wiki/Chronologie_antideutscher_Gewalt_von_Polen

6 years ago

Markus proceeds to spew the propaganda of inter-European war (apparently the product of eugenic breeding which can do no other) Markus says: December 4, 2013 at 11:13 am “Poland massacred 1,000′s from 1918-1939, expelled 100,000’s” There is nothing that you say which can be trusted; and you will never acknowledge the atrocities committed by Germans against Poles in times prior to World War 2, such as the rape of Kalisz. “ installed concentration camps (the first in Europe)” Truth is not a concern with you, now is it Markus? “crossed the border to Germany and Danzig to kill Germans” What a stupid liar you are: crossed the border (into a neutral city)… just to kill Germans, right? Had no finer objective than that. “Poland’s clergy,… Read more »

Markus
Reply to  DanielS
6 years ago

The atrocities against Germans began right after WW1, long before “the Nazis” were ever heard of. As soon as the Germans were helplessly trapped in the Corridor, the slaughter began.

6 years ago

And the rape of Kalisz happened in August 1914

etc etc…Tuetonic knights, etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_Kalisz

Markus says:
December 4, 2013 at 12:39 pm

“The atrocities against Germans began right after WW1, long before “the Nazis” were ever heard of. As soon as the Germans were helplessly trapped in the Corridor, the slaughter began” (So Goebbels said).
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6 years ago

The destruction and sacking of the city of Kalisz occurred in August 1914. It was perpetrated by German Empire troops. From August 2 until August 22, 1914 at the beginning of World War I, one of the oldest towns in Poland (then under foreign Partitions), was shelled, bombed and burned down. The event is also known as the Pogrom of Kalisz or Poland’s Louvain (see Schrecklichkeit atrocities). Kalisz was founded in the 13th century on an ancient site encircled by the Prosna river. It has a typical mediaeval urban structure. On February 13 1793, Kalisz and the Kalisz region was annexed by Prussia during the partition of Poland; but after Napoleon’s defeat on the Eastern front, it was taken over by Imperial Russia, which subsequently… Read more »

Markus
Reply to  DanielS
6 years ago

Whatever happened during WW1 by the Prussian Army to Polish cities in some incidents need to be addressed and reparations need to be paid (and have). These actions happened during war, when Germany was encircled as always and the circumstances had strategic reasons.

But there is no comparison to what Poland did to the Germans during Peace Times. An attempted genocide of a whole nation. When and how will Poland pay?

Carmen
6 years ago

The Website of Carlos Whitlock Porter:

Poland and Fabrification of Polish History by Else Loser.

Carmen
Reply to  Carmen
6 years ago

That is Falsification..

Reply to  Carmen
6 years ago

Carmen, what makes this document of baroque anti-Polish propaganda more stupid than dangerous even, is that nobody (outside of Jews) is trying to blame Germans at this point in history. The problem is, people like you want to blame Poland, and with tedius muck like this you would force a similarly protracted defense, where you apparently wish to create another inter-European war. We are all expected to do our part in defending Europe against non-Europeans and in establishing new sacrosanct territories outside of Europe. It is bewildering that I hear charges of Poles being indoctrinated with hatred toward Germans when I experience no such thing; on the contrary, I see documents such as this litany by the aptly named Ms Loser (apparently German woman, who… Read more »

Markus
Reply to  Carmen
6 years ago

What does it say in a sentence, Carmen?

Carmen
Reply to  Markus
6 years ago

Christianity and race mixing with Germans and Asians creates a lethal weapon.

6 years ago

All sides have paid for both real and the crimes you imagine.

I could go on with German crimes throughout history; I was hoping you would get message that it can go on and on, but at the same time realizing you are probably too much of an idiot to look forward.

My whole outlook has been geared toward cooperation in defense of Europeans, all Europeans, and yet I must occasionally deal with people like you who can think of nothing else but inciting inter-European war. Worse, your lies aren’t even good ones – they are all too easily dispelled; which means that your will is bad; and unfortunately, it seems likely to remain.

6 years ago

..you see, when Markus says when and how will Poland pay? His Jewish parentage comes through, as he taps his foot, counting in his head, the interest on his loansharking, which he conceives to be in arrears.

As if Germany hasn’t killed enough Polish people; as if they haven’t paid enough of price. Shut up Markus. You are an idiot.

Markus
Reply to  DanielS
6 years ago

NSDAP party program #11: Abolition of interest slavery.

Payment doesn’t need to be in money. Acknowledgement of guilt is a beginning. Germany paid $ billions to Poland and still does. What has Poland paid to Germany?

Money itself is not evil. If you cut the Jewish middle man, it is a very reasonable means of exchange.
Accusing me as a Hitler supporter of being Jewish is laughable. Nice try. Projection much?

Reply to  Markus
6 years ago

Markus, the land is not mine to give nor yours to take. That you are a Hitler supporter makes you the mirror image of Jew.

Markus
Reply to  DanielS
6 years ago

What? Hitler=Jew! Who are you? Are you from Mars?

Reply to  Markus
6 years ago

Mirror reflection of Talmudic reasoning.

Markus
Reply to  DanielS
6 years ago

Poland has nothing to offer anyway. I am suggesting returning our land only and let Poles off the hook.

Reply to  Markus
6 years ago

You may suggest nothing: you are insane.

6 years ago

Poor little belligerent Poland
http://cockroachalley.com/?page_id=2786

Reply to  Joe Northpal
6 years ago

Joe Northpal, I know where you are from (the same place as me, remember Dicky Dees?). With that, I know that you don’t know a damn thing about Polish people or history.

It is unbecoming to jump on such a stupid band wagon. Man, the Jews must be loving the inter European strife you guys are attempting.

Reply to  DanielS
6 years ago

DanielS – no we are bringing to light the hard facts of history. The good, the bad and the ugly, why, to disparage any one nation ? No, to expose all our foolish deception so we do not repeat nationalist chauvinism to the detriment of our race as a whole. Yes you know where I am from and you should also understand our struggles there, our victories but most of all our ultimate defeat there. If we do not look these failures in the eye, understand how they came about, or the results, then we are doomed to repeat them. Sensitivity has no place in a hard, realistic evaluation. Why is it we can tear apart (and rightly so) America’s failures, but we are to… Read more »

Reply to  Joe Northpal
6 years ago

DanielS responds to Northpal “bringing to light the hard facts of history” they may think you are. But are rather partaking of obscenely one sided propaganda. Being as impervious as Markus is, is not the same as being concerned with the facts of history. If concern were the truth, that would be a good thing. As I have said “The good, the bad and the ugly, why, to disparage any one nation?” I don’t! This guy is disparaging one nation, Poland. I am not interested in laying guilt trips on Germans at all. Nobody here had anything to do with World War ll. I reluctantly responded when I began hearing this propaganda mounting, and knowing how inaccurate it was, I saw then need to respond… Read more »

Reply to  DanielS
6 years ago

Damn you DanielS mentioning Dicky Dees.
You got me thinking about a couple of sabrett dogs or steak and mushrooms stuuffed inside a fresh hot french stick from calandra’s bakery, with a chunk of provone imported from northern Italy and a glass of hand pressed tart red wine.
Damn you DanielS

Reply to  DanielS
6 years ago

Calandra’s bakery, now they make good bread.

Carmen
6 years ago

Your hatred of all things German DanielS is well noted. You must somehow find a way to look in the mirror and be honest with yourself. Maybe then you can stop this blindness that so fuels this hatred. Be well, and dream better dreams.

Reply to  Carmen
6 years ago

Hey Carmen, you are as blind as a bat. I don’t hate Germans or Germany. I am defending against your rank propaganda. You have the nerve to talks spewing that shit from MS Loser.

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