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gammaray
7 years ago

I suggest a debate on this Hitler question with a strict moderator because Charles will not contain himself without a structured environment.He is a loose canon,gets way too emotional and over talks the other person.His Hitler bashing and undocumented conspiratorial numerology and Freemason jargon is getting old and many of his podcasts are becoming redundant.He is not growing.It gets to the point sometimes that when I do listen to him [not often anymore] I ask myself why is he here on Renegade when much of what he says is in opposition to the philosophy of the website. Robert Reyvolt would be a good moderator.The question of race could also be a sub topic.

Reply to  gammaray
7 years ago

Like the Lothians 2,000 years ago, his “Numerology” drew me in 🙂
Still, i’m willing to listen later,, not so “enthusiastic” now.

Reply to  gammaray
7 years ago

I heard that he did not want to hear any of the other shows here on Renegade. That could be the reason why he is failing now. Who is he listening to then?

Leeda
Reply to  gammaray
7 years ago

I used to enjoy many of Charles’ shows years back when I was a bit newer to some of the info. I even got a chuckle or two from some of his well-deserved attacks on christianity. But gammaray has hit right on what I’ve been feeling for some time. Let’s just say that I haven’t really listened to any of Charles’ shows for a few weeks now for the same reasons. Most of these shows feel very old-school (but not necessarily in a good way) and just re-runs of everything Charles has been saying for years. Some of what he puts out is fantastic but much of it is really hard to swallow these days. I don’t mean to offend when I say this but… Read more »

Yrton
Reply to  gammaray
7 years ago

None of you presented any legit argument in contrary to CG’s points.
He has a lot to contribute, and has contributed a lot, to the awakening of our people and above all he’s a honest and a great man.
I don’t see why it’s such a big deal for anyone in our level of awareness to criticize Hitler. Many of us don’t have the interpretation of Hitler’s work as CG does but …. Who cares?
My argument is that at the highest level of dissent, when we know our friend has good intentions and deeds, we don’t need to give him/her a hard time over minor issues (interpretations about this figure or that figure).

Letz
Reply to  Yrton
7 years ago

Problem is, Charles uses quotes that aren’t in Mein Kampf. The quotes on Hitler not wanting education and a mindless violent following aren’t Hitler’s words. They must be by Charles’ 1960 Mein Kampf editor’s note or so. Hitler’s quote on the Big Lie technique has been rid of its reference to Jews utilizing it by Charles (or whoever he’s quoting”. And Charles’ rediculous 8pm speech occultism allegations are really a desperate attempt to portray Hitler badly. Only thing missing is horror music in the background and some motion pictures of that time, slowed down to half its speed to make it look more serious. This from Mr. Jewwise, after we explained his horseshit quotes aren’t in any NSDAP approved edition of Mein Kampf, way back… Read more »

Yrton
Reply to  Letz
7 years ago

Charles is also neither creationist nor evolutionist. He’s a balanced and free-thinking analytic researcher and I find his work to be very valuable not only in Renegade but also the broader “movement”.

Hermit
Reply to  Yrton
7 years ago

It’s not a minor issue to delineate facts from fiction when it comes to the one leading figure who organized a stand against jewry and who almost brought it to its knees. In an imperfect world, why should such leading figures be held to such standards that, “well, because they lost the war all these terrible things happened to Europe…”? It’s ridiculous. The jews plan to control the world. What makes ANY ONE think that destroying Europe wasn’t on the menu regardless of what all the nationalists, with Hitler at the lead, did to resist it? There’s enough smoke being blown about to confuse non-jews by the jews and their agents. The last thing we need is this constant bashing of the main figure who… Read more »

harness
Reply to  gammaray
7 years ago

How dare you bash our truther god good old Chuck! Do you not believe in ILLUMINATI?

Cobra
7 years ago

I find it rather amusing that you start out with quotes out of context about a struggle against global Marxist financial factions that had for decades divided and dumbed down the population into sound bite reasoning as abhorrent and unsupportable by “reason”. Only to then jump into the “modern” world and almost repeat verbatim the problem of a mass population unable to reason it’s way to freedom from Jewish tyranny. Hitler learned the hard way how dirty the game is and how divided efforts lead to disaster. He was a pragmatist and looked at the problems and solutions realistically not pie in the sky “hope and change ” You suffer from dumpster brain without discernment or grounding in the practical aspects of the real world… Read more »

Hermit
Reply to  Cobra
7 years ago

I support Hitler and the NSDAP but I disagree that he learned how dirty the game can get. I think he had a taste of how dirty it could get but not the full taste. If he did there would have been different actions taken in situations such as Dunkirk. Hindsight is 20/20 for us today though. We see the attempts at a gentleman’s war used against the Germans. There’s no reason we need to sink to the depths that the jews will, but we need to be aware of just what they could do to control behavior or gain power in various situations. Their behavior is the essence of evil distilled. It wouldn’t hurt one bit if our men were to spend some time… Read more »

Cobra
Reply to  Hermit
7 years ago

I meant for his time and “his struggle” as they were not nearly as aware of just how controlled the west was by international Jewry and how in bed with communist factions the power structure was. He thought survival and pragmatism would win from the start.

I posted before I have a workable plan to wake up people in the west use the weight of the system against itself and use the greed of those in the system along with Jewish paranoid inbreeding to rally into action and a cause and vision worth fighting for. Asked before how to get ahold of Kyle and hash it out not that complicated and common sense approach

Hhjhg
7 years ago

I will have to listen again tonight when I’m not distracted, but “domination of the other races” could be interpreted differently in the German language than English. But like Michael Jordan dominated didn’t mean he enslaved anyone. Learning propaganda techniques from Marxists doesn’t bother me. A man that doesn’t fight doesn’t deserve to live makes sense in the context of the crisis the Germans were in. I will check out Charles’s series I enjoy the different perspective

Letz
7 years ago

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Letz
Reply to  Letz
7 years ago

: Charles’ quotes on youth not being educated is not in MK. Charles might have quoted some footnotes of his 1960 edition. In Germany today, these inserted footnotes take up more space in MK than the original text. The quote on wanting only mindless violent followers isn’t in MK either. Charles claiming Hitler not having written MK may also apply only for his 1960 edition. 80% of MK is rather an autobiography of Hitler, where he speaks of his early life and not about political ideology. Charles should read an original of MK and not his pre-Jewwise unchecked highschool notes. Also Charles quotes MK on the Big Lie technique, yet he omits its immediate reference to Jews utilizing it, so that it looks as if… Read more »

Hhjhg
Reply to  Letz
7 years ago

If what you say is true, I wonder why he would continue to put out false information after being corrected. It doesn’t make much sense anyway for a guy to make evil statements like these and then go on to create the greatest political structure and country to ever exist and have foreign leaders saying how these Germans are the happiest people alive

Letz
Reply to  Hhjhg
7 years ago

In Charles’ defense. He barely reads comments, so anyone correcting him might not even come to his attention. We’ll see if he reads these.

Reply to  Letz
7 years ago

Letz32

“In Charles’ defense. He barely reads comments, so anyone correcting him might not even come to his attention. We’ll see if he reads these.”

Well if he does not, knowing full well the show is hosted on Renegade, his Obnoxiousness continues uninhabited, says plenty about character and what he may think of Renegade followers… At least I take time to reply.

7 years ago

His College Professor was very pleased with his thesis, all taken from literature found in the College, they had plenty of copies, yes, i’m sure they did, and there you are, in other discussions acknowledge that these Education “INSTITUTIONS” not only Indoctrinate, but put out all kinds of crap and outright lies ! How hypocritical ! I could care less if you were to be more reserved than obnoxious, you may as well have CONTINUED to be obnoxious, Bollx ! I’ve had a copy of MK for nearly 20 years, the one Endorsed by the NSDAP itself. You are completely off base, and let us not forget, you had already stated to Kyle that you were not going to change your mind because ? you’ve… Read more »

Reply to  Roj Blake
7 years ago

And to boot, Charles doesn’t even know what the correct Flag is ! 🙂
I’ll stop there.

Letz
Reply to  Roj Blake
7 years ago

Yes, his research is A+ material in any college, ins’t it?

It’s very easy to determine if he is wrong or not: Can Charles cite his quotes from a NSDAP approved edition of Mein Kampf, or not?

Previous findings like this one guy, what was his nickname Schmutzi? are interesting, but again, his conclusions because there is one German-American who was in the NSDAP, whose father had ties with the White House (or something), isn’t a red flag per se either.

These conclusions are as vague as saying Goebbels drank French wine on Christmas 1932 and is therefore a French traitor. He lived in the French controlled Rhineland after WW1 afterall. ?

Falcon
7 years ago

I side with Giuliani on this one. The jew is notorious for playing both sides, and with Hitler things are no different. It seems to me that people react to Hitler bashing in much the same way Christians react to Jesus bashing. People get all defensive when they are shown that something they so dearly want to believe in is not what it seems.

Falcon
Reply to  renegade
7 years ago

I don’t have a copy of Mein Kampf so I can’t speak to that issue. However, there are valid reasons to question Hitler that have nothing to do with quotes, real or not real.

hartkern
Reply to  Falcon
7 years ago

Theres another trap that you have to keep in mind. And that is rejecting Hitler because he says stuff that jews also said.
If a prey wants to escape from a predator, it has to evolve to be a fast runner just like the predator. Or it has to become stealthy, just like the predator. Or it has to use violence against the predator also like the predator.
Thats just how nature works.
And if you dont want jews to have power over you, then you have to be striving for power. Saying someone is wrong because he strives for power, just like the jews, doesnt make sense to me.

Reply to  hartkern
7 years ago

There’s a big difference between striving for power and deliberately and sadistically going about it to get that power. Hitler did not at all strive for power in a way that he wanted people to suffer… Quite the contrary. Whereas, the fuckin kikes don’t care who suffers and how.

THIS is what made Hitler and makes us different to the those god damned kike creatures!!

hartkern
7 years ago

I tend to agree with a lot of these Hitler Quotes, i also agree with some of the “elders of zion” quotes.
Sometimes its just a fact. And wether you are “good” or “evil”, you have to deal with the facts.
Life is a struggle for survival and anyone that doesnt participate wont survive, thats just a given. I see these Hitler quotes rather as a description of what is, not what should be. Blaming Hitler for that is blaming the messenger.

Nick Dean
7 years ago

I read this thread after commenting at a TradYouth thread, the problem is the same in both places. http://www.tradyouth.org/2016/08/lawfare-in-louisville/ Well-meaning people (we assume), needing an established source for their orientations and opinion, their ideas to run on, will find one, and not care overmuch about its sources, truth, or how it affects their ultimate best interests. Its prior existence and measure of support give it legitimacy, and if it fits with the adopting party’s present level of education it becomes a dogma. This is a common human weakness we need to understand better in our political efforts. But even that being said, there is a positive spin: very few sincere truth seekers or pro-Whites stick with kosher nationalism or anti-Hitlerism, fewer and fewer as the… Read more »

Christine
7 years ago

When is CG going to realize that his school’s version of MK was mass produced by the KIKES? Keeps repeating over and over that it comes from Hitler’s own mouth. His stubborness makes me so disgusted I will not listen to him anymore. Obnoxious as all hell

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