“The Polish/Jewish communist government was killing two to three thousand German civilians a week”.. I don’t think so. I understand that Goebbels had to scramble for a few examples of Germans being killed between 1900 and the start of the war. The Polish government fought vehemently against communism. Keep pursing the truth (Maybe Dana won’t, will continue to idealize Hitler, will continue to want to believe Nazi propaganda) but maybe others will see that it not nearly such clear cut issue as the Nazis being the good guys and all those in their path being Jew controlled communists.
The German-Polish war had come out of a quarrel over a town Danzig, the size of 1950 square Kilometers, population 408,000, 95 percent German, had been forcibly severed from Germany at Versailles in violation of Woodrow Wilson’s principle of self-determination. All world leaders and many British leaders thought Danzig should be returned as its 97.6% population had voted against forced union with Poland in the year 1919. Six years later, 72 million had perished. Britain was broken, bankrupt and Lost its Empire and consequently World Domination, France and Germany a smoldering ruin. By May 1945, Red Army hordes occupied all the great capitals of Central Europe: Vienna, Prague, Budapest, Berlin. A hundred million people were under the heel of the most barbarous tyranny in history:… Read more »
In response to JoeNorthpal Joe Northpal says: March 3, 2014 at 1:51 am “The German-Polish war had come out of a quarrel over a town Danzig.” No, it was not only about that. “the size of 1950 square Kilometers, population 408,000, 95 percent German” “It had been forcibly severed from Germany at Versailles in violation of Woodrow Wilson’s principle of self-determination.” My heart is bleeding. “All world leaders and many British leaders thought Danzig should be returned as its 97.6% population had voted against forced union with Poland in the year 1919.” It was a neutral city, not a union with Poland. Obviously not all world leaders thought it should be returned to Germany. “Six years later, 72 million had perished.” Thanks to the war… Read more »
By the way, this whole “Hitler is your god” “you worhsip (whatever that means) Hitler” meme is getting pretty old. Stop being jealous. http://hi-hater.webs.com/hi_hater2353.jpg
Funny how many Americans waking up to the lies can honestly say our grandparents were duped or just plain stupid enough to go and destroy (for a second time) Europe. We can look deep into the projected bright eyed innocence of our moral leaders and see the evil,.as well as look in the projected dark eyed villainous immoral German leaders and see virtue. Most of us have no lineage to Germany, but you Daniel anchor yourself down with faux nationalism borne from the one eyed trumpets of ambitious praetorians.
Danzig and West Prussia were German; stolen from Germany and placed under Polish rule after World War I.
Polish Marshal / Political Leader Edward Rydz-Smigły was emboldened by Roosevelt’s assurances.
Hitler’s protection of Germans in Poland triggered World War II.
The Katyn Forest massacre was NOT done by the Germans.
The fact is that if the Germans had prevailed during World War ii, we would not be suffering under the present jewish Usury based economic system. This is a simple fact.
We would also not be having the frequent chimpouts and knockout games that we are at present.
Hear, hear. And at this point it is all so obvious to people like you and I. Not to mention that the Soviets would have sooner or later invaded Poland anyhow. The Polish people were largely caught in the middle. @Daniels Haha, if you can’t idealize a man such as the Great Adolf Hitler, who can you take inspiration from, other than oneself, of course. These crackers be all jealous of the Great German Hero.
Actually Danzig was under League of Nations protection, the whole issue was a rail link and or highway to it from Germany across the former German territory (now the Polish corridor created for Poland’s access to the sea.). The Germans in the Free City of Danzig were being systematically starved of fuel and food during the 1920’s especially during France Occupation of the Ruhr over German inability to meet war reparations. While German gold and property (including livestock down to the last chickens) was being swilled by the jew backed victors of WW1, newly formed Poland would not even extend credit for rail transport of emergency supplies, extracted exorbitant late penalty fees, demanded payment in gold or state conversion of falling mark into the new… Read more »
In response to Northpal, who says: March 3, 2014 at 11:47 am “Actually Danzig was under League of Nations protection” Right. “The whole issue was a rail link and or highway to it from Germany across the former German territory (now the Polish corridor created for Poland’s access to the sea.)” The Nazis claimed that was the whole issue. Only a fool would believe it. More, they had access to Danzig by sea and air. The Polish government considered it insane to have a German highway running through its country. Germany would too. “The Germans in the Free City of Danzig were being systematically starved of fuel and food during the 1920′s especially during France Occupation of the Ruhr over German inability to meet war… Read more »
All of history is war. All nations are founded upon conquest. You make the same excuses for Poland that others make for Germany. What is the difference?
A person can’t have made mistakes, had failures, and, perhaps in your mind, “unfairly” offended and invaded another peoples, without still being worthy of being called “Great” and a “Hero”? What is required of a man in order to be deemed heroic to HIS people, or great even in the minds of those he went after. Tell the Polish racialists and nationalists to stop appropriating National Socialist aesthetic and ideology, then, if you’re position is that Hitler was a bad guy, and the Poles were innocent and beyond reproach. I think all white European folk have a right to admire Hitler, and even to criticize him. However, you’re view of the Poles is no different than many’s view of the Germans. That they did absolutely… Read more »
You call everyone who defends Hitler a worshipper of him. Since you are defending Poland, I guess that means you worship Poland, which I personally would have no problem with. I have no moral issue with jews thinking they are better than everyone (except for the results that their own particular form of supremacism has had on the world e.g. on the environment, animals, children etc.). That doesn’t mean I do not oppose them since that ends up conflicting with my own interests. That part of history (the invasion of Poland), I freely acknowledge is complex and beyond my present understanding. I also freely admit that I am a liar and a hypocrite. You, on the other hand, continue to do exactly what you claim… Read more »
The Opposite is true. As time goes on, and this phase of correction of absolute vilification has past, the idealization of Hitler will be diminished and people will accept that his flaws and see other sides such that he does not merit holding up as a representative of WN. I never said that Poles and Poland are perfect. It is difficult to go into nuance, however, with Nazi advocates, because I’d be the only one accounting for errors in judgment. Sorry, but that is my experience, “Hitler can do no wrong, the only victims were Germans.” There is nothing wrong with defending Germans and Germany: I do and help them, whenever possible; but you really should understand that Hitler is just too divisive on balance.… Read more »
“Good propaganda does not need to lie, indeed it may not lie. It has no reason to fear the truth. It is a mistake to believe that people cannot take the truth. They can. It is only a matter of presenting the truth to people in a way that they will be able to understand. A propaganda that lies proves that it has a bad cause. It cannot be successful in the long run.” (Goebbels at Nuremberg Rally, 1934)
That Goebbels needed to lie in order to justify Germany’s actions was and remains to this day a common jewish and allied (all lied, all lies) meme.
daniels
10 years ago
Oh yeah, the Nazis would never lie – ha ha ha! Tom in CT says: March 2, 2014 at 1:01 pm “Danzig and West Prussia were German; stolen from Germany and placed under Polish rule after World War I.” That just goes to show how little you know the facts of that History. Danzig was neutral, not Polish. And Poland reclaimed only a tiny piece of what was west Prussia – land stolen from the Poles; rightfully took back their ancient capital of Poznan and access to the sea (lands stolen from them by Friedrich the Great asshole). “Polish Marshal / Political Leader Edward Rydz-Smigły was emboldened by Roosevelt’s assurances” He may have been and the war my have been avoided, beginning by Germany recognizing… Read more »
HAHAHA!!! Thank you for so easily revealing yourself!
^^^This comment was meant as a reply here. I am re-posting it in case someone else decides to comment and mine get’s lost in the shuffle.
While I’m at it:
“ Not to mention that the Soviets would have sooner or later invaded Poland anyhow.”
They already had and Poland already fought them.
German Invasion of Poland
1 September – 6 October 1939
Soviet Invasion of Poland
17 September – 6 October 1939
No one here is talking about the Polish-Soviet War.
Last comment on this show. I’ll let others do the rest.
I would turn Adolf Hitler into a graven image and bow, even kneel, before it, long before I would ever parrot the jew lie (Walter Charles Langer ((http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Charles_Langer)), he was Jewish on his mother’s side) that Hitler liked to be pissed and shit on by his niece. You sir, are worthless.
HaHaHA. Thank you for so easily revealing yourself!
The Seeker of Truth
10 years ago
Kyle, are the banners en route?
em247
10 years ago
Thank goodness Daniel, SOMEONE is talking some sense to these simple minded Hitler adorers. i have found they can’t listen to intelligent argument though, they need everything nicely black and white for the narrow thinking of their propogandarized minds. All information that they don’t like, they simply disregard, and you are shunned for bringing it up. For instance, your not allowed to mention the fact that the word Nazi is actually taken from the word Ashkenazi, as in Ashkenasi Jews. The Ashkenazi Jews that came from the Roman empire, to ressurect Rome in Europe. Hitler was separating the lowly Sephardic Jews, from the Ashkenazi Jews. The Ashkenazi Jews include all the Brittish royal family, who are German in Origin. They believe they are descendants of… Read more »
God, you’re stupid, Emily. Go back to Alex Jones and talking about robots and bible codes. They didn’t refer to themselves as Nazis (except in the case of Goebbels’s Der Nazi-Sozi, which presumably was something of an attempt to do what the groids did with the word nigger, except w/o altering it). As if you’re even capable of intelligent argument.
daniels
10 years ago
In response to blutuboden: blutundboden says: “Six years later, 72 million had perished.” Thanks to the war mongering of your god, Hitler Yes, it was within his power to Not go to war. But it was not within his emotional control. He was enamored of Friedrich the Great, his militarism, that of the Teutonic Knights, the intransigent wish to re-fight World War I, etc. Der Blutenboden says “I think we all now know where “daniels” stands. According to him, Hitler, not the jews, was responsible for WW2. Thanks again, moron.” Not exactly, idiot, I think that Germany was abused horribly by Jews and the Treaty of Versailles; that was “the cause” of Hitler’s overcompensating militarism, German chauvinism and imperialism. “blutundboden goes on to add: By… Read more »
Don’t quote me on this exactly but I’m pretty sure Adolf Hitler said something along the lines of that he would be regarded in a new light in the (not-too-distant) future. Regardless of all the “that was then, this is now” naysayers (retards who only want you to regard THEIR history as relevant) I’d say that Mein Kampf being the most popular book on Amazon in 2013 is at least a sign of that starting. All this other stuff from the the likes of DanielS (should we feed him to the lions?) and especially from Emily (“YOUR” IS NOT THE SAME AS “YOU’RE” GODDAMMIT!!!), is really just bloviating distraction from retards (I make no apology for using non-pc descriptions) who “think” they have a better… Read more »
Nik
10 years ago
Daniels and Emily are such judiazed anti-german retards is hard to even laugh at such anti-German bigots. Plz, unkosher your minds people.
Well, I cannot speak for Emily, but I certainly am not anti German.
ewkeane
10 years ago
Could you please site the source of the information about Hitlers perversions?
It is a popular notion that Hitler was an avitar, sent to earth to help men thrive and be happy on earth. He was no match for the devil of the world at that time, but the memory of Hitler persists, maybe for a thousand years! Hitlers words are all over the internet, in many languages. Perhaps, it is Hitler that is making people jew wise today? 14/88
And now for the music! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mp4aOABbsI
This painting was done the year Adolf Hitler was born: http://slavyanskaya-kultura.ru/images/1335697002-160983–rsrsrrrrrrrryor.jpg During WW1 Adolf Hitler wrote the following poem: I often go on bitter nights To Wotan’s oak on the quiet glade With dark powers to weave a union – The runic letters the moon makes with its magic spell And all who are full of impudence during the day Are made small by the magic formula! They draw shining steel – but instead of going into combat They solidify into stalagmites. So the false ones part from the real ones – I reach into a nest of words And then give the good and just With my formula blessings and prosperity. Dr. C.G. Jung’s essay “Wotan”: http://www.philosopher.eu/others-writings/essay-on-wotan-w-nietzsche-c-g-jung/ I am going to do a pre-recorded… Read more »
Franz von Stuck. He had two paintings that were both titled “Die Wilde Jagd”, which can mean either “The Wild Hunt” or “The Wild Chase”. When translated into English, the one I posted is referred to as “The Wild Chase”, and the other as “The Wild Hunt”.
I am posting this a second time because I made the mistake of not entering it in as a reply. Sorry about that, Renegade Moderators.
Franz von Stuck. He had two paintings that were both titled “Die Wilde Jagd”, which can mean either “The Wild Hunt” or “The Wild Chase”. When translated into English, the one I posted is referred to as “The Wild Chase”, and the other as “The Wild Hunt”.
daniels
10 years ago
Since this blutunboden guy was allowed to have the last word here, I take the matter to my court.
Sure,the context is “lousy” when it doesn’t serve your idealization of ehem ehem and his regime, a view of history that suited them – that bullshit is surely getting old.
This whole idiotic Pat Buchanatard view of “the unnecessary war” frames matters after the fact, where Poland’s staunch anti-Soviet position had been ignored and its sovereignty violated.
Is it any wonder that his view would wish to cut he conversation off at this inconvenient detail?
In response to my last comment, DanielS, “welcome”. To the real world that is. Do you understand yet how the world functions? You would think, especially when one takes into consideration all of that posturing drivel over at majoritykikes.com Anyhow: In a personal conversation with Artur Silgailis, chief of staff of Inspection General the Latvian Legion, the Latvian Waffen-SS, Heinrich Himmler outlined his future intentions with the SS and the organization of Europe: “He [Himmler] then singled out those nations which he regarded as belonging to the German family of nations and they were: the Germans, the Dutch, the Flemish, the Anglo-Saxons, the Scandinavians and the Baltic people. ‘To combine all of these nations into one big family is the most important task at the… Read more »
Would someone please read his article and tell me what THEY think? Here is a pathetic article from another contributor over there, they agreed with his article and posted this link: http://www.majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/the_ghosts_of_the_past where Hitler is referred to as a draft-dodger, a snitch, and a “sickly-looking Austrian” (it’s not called majoritykikes for nothing). Hah, and they claim to be merely attempting to unite white people, good luck with your current strategy. I would really appreciate reading a response from someone more informed than myself. I do not have the present knowledge or time to make a rebuttal to his perspective in the manner he presents it. I would not care if he were correct, as all of history is war, all nations were founded upon conquest,… Read more »
Under “About this website” section, they make a point to state this:
“We explore various issues related to the preservation of Western culture and the ethnic genetic interests (EGI) of people of European ancestry. This site does not argue that the EGI and cultural concerns of non-European people are less important than those of people of European ancestry.”
“This site does not argue that the EGI and cultural concerns of non-European people are less important than those of people of European ancestry.”
^^^ Really? Defending yourself against charges of thinking your interests are “more important” (whatever that means)?
Why not trust the point of view of one who chooses to not overly sympathize with the Axis point of view? I can sympathize some, but realize that on balance that they screwed-up massively. They drew their interests too narrowly and they overcompensated – its clear. More, I do not agree with this statement: “This site does not argue that the EGI and cultural concerns of non-European people are less important than those of people of European ancestry.” Maybe that is the site’s position, but it is not mine. However, I do not know of anybody who calls the site “majoritykikes” besides you. I cannot vouch for all of Dr. Lister’s point of view, even in that article, but I do appreciate his stance against… Read more »
DanielS- “Get used to it – that’s the truth (which you only pretend to care about) that will come to be understood as the truth is cared for.” And yet, earlier from him: “Ha ha Hitler is dead, no more Friedrich the Great fetishism. No more golden showers from his niece.” and “His niece could pee on his ugly face all she wanted as far as I am concerned.” You echo the jew lie that Adolf Hitler liked to be pissed on by his niece (walter c. langer was a jew http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Charles_Langer and this notion originates in his work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mind_of_Adolf_Hitler ), all the while attempting to demonstrate that you are somehow driven only out of concern for truth, thereby providing anecdotal evidence as to the… Read more »
The lousy context is referring to 1921 Poland (without further contextual argument or discussion as to why this was mentioned) when discussing Poland’s political realities 18 years later!
Luther
10 years ago
I’d tell Brian and he would creep into your room as a ” bed intruder”
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Thank you, Luther. LOL. What a video! You made my day a good one.
If Brian cannot figure out the context that statement was made in and the point it was meant to convey about the irrational nature of man and tribal identity over cold, boring, so-called objective, hyper-rationalism, then that would be too bad. I have more respect for, and higher-expectations of him than that, though.
When I say “If it really came down to it”, he ought to know what is meant by that. I am speaking of hypotheticals, of course. Also, I believe that “if it really came down to it”, he would himself say “Fuck Germany”. These truths are acceptable to me. I am able to get over them. I have little respect for those who cannot themselves.
And do not forget, I posted that in the wrong place. It is repeated above in it’s proper place and context. You must locate it and read “all” in order to understand. If you cannot understand, I am unable help you (not you, Luther, I mean anyone reading this).
daniels
10 years ago
What is so stupid about this Hitler advocacy is that it is clearly going to create enemies among Whites who can so easily be allied. It is the most simple conceptual move to say: we advocate all people of native European descent, respecting the maintenance of their discreet kinds and nations, though not having a major problem with some blending of Europeans. However, Jews are not native Europeans and they are chief among our adversaries; we seek separatism from them and all non-native Europeans. We can have the best of both worlds, taking what worked from the past economic policies, etc and leaving behind what did not work along with the stigma of Hitler and Reich imagery; taking on a new identity based on inter-European… Read more »
“What is so stupid about this Hitler advocacy is that it is clearly going to create enemies among Whites who can so easily be allied.” Sorry, DanielS, but it is more than obvious that his potential for UNIFYING educated, jew-wise, pro-whites far surpasses his potential to divide them (we are only talking about reverence, not worship. You seem incapable of understanding the difference). You are in the minority, and history will not bare out your misguided presumptions (if whites in America were ever to become enlightened in regards the jew, you would certainly be in a sorry state trying to deter them all from giving Hitler his just due). Your conception of Adolf Hitler clearly conflicts with your own self-ego, and I am sorry you… Read more »
daniels
10 years ago
Sorry Bultenbolden, but you are wrong. “Sorry, DanielS, but it is more than obvious that his potential for UNIFYING educated, jew-wise, pro-whites far surpasses his potential to divide them “ Wrong. It may seem that way in your clique, but you will see. “(we are only talking about reverence, not worship. You seem incapable of understanding the difference).” This difference is not important. I may as well have said “anyone stupid and tactless enough to ‘revere’ Hitler. “You are in the minority,” No, I am not. You are in a vast minority. And the sooner you see it, the better. “ and history will not bare out your misguided presumptions (if whites in America were ever to become enlightened in regards the jew, you would… Read more »
Dude, fucking give it up already. I am an individual saying these things, but am not the only one. Amongst jew-wise, pro-whites you ARE the minority. That is why you work tirelessly to convince others, whereas I came along not having to convince anyone, they ALREADY held similar views. I am not affiliated, nor do I have connections or ties to anyone. I belong to NO group, or clique as you call it.
“In truth, I don’t know and don’t care if this bit about his golden showers is true or not. I meant to illustrate that I do not respect Hitler.”
Exactly, thank you for proving my point and disproving your own claims of objectivity.
“…disproving your own claims of objectivity.” as regards your perspective on what is the best outlook for European peoples to take, as was the intention of the aforementioned quote.
Saying that Adolf Hitler had an ugly mug and liked to be urinated on CLEARLY demonstrates your objective desire to put forth a perspective best suited for European (in the racial sense) survival. HA HA HA.
Clearly I am advocating Whites, yes. Hitler was a force of inter-European war and destruction. He cared predominantly about Germans, and was quite willing to make Europeans into mass casualties.
I did not claim to be motivated by sheer objectivity, moron. You claim Hitler should be revered. Read Mein Kampf and see that its underlying “philosophy” is largely a false justification for ongoing, intransigent, vastly destructive inter-European war. The clique that I referred to are those who want to maintain a reverence for Hitler and his imagery.
Upon further reflection, I would say that among jew-wise, pro-whites, we are both in the minority. Most people are far more neutral. I revere him, you denigrate him. However, in regards these two minority camps, I would say there are more who have mostly positive things to say, as opposed to mostly negative.
daniels
10 years ago
If I could redo the post, I would not have called you a “moron” because you show signs of ability to cooperate on behalf of Whites (and hopefully see the impracticality of Hitler’s world view for that purpose); and I would not want to contribute to driving you into an intransigent maintenance of all things Hitler because I had referred to you personally in insulting terms.
At no point did I accuse you of pretending to be motivated by sheer objectivism. That would indicate I claimed you falsely put forth the notion that you attempt to be objective in ALL possible matters. I never did. You’re claiming that I did is what is annoying and absurd. I was very specific as to my accusation. ““…disproving your own claims of objectivity.” as regards your perspective on what is the best outlook (edit: or strategy) for European peoples to take, as was the intention of the aforementioned quote.” “Saying that Adolf Hitler had an ugly mug and liked to be urinated on CLEARLY demonstrates your objective desire to put forth a perspective best suited for European (in the racial sense) survival. HA HA… Read more »
“In truth, I don’t know and don’t care if this bit about his golden showers is true or not. I meant to illustrate that I do not respect Hitler.”
Exactly, thank you for proving my point and disproving your own claims of objectivity.
^^^ Clearly, all of this still fits with everything I just clarified, the notion that you claim to be interested in truth as regards what the best strategy for white survival is. If you were interested in what method was best for white survival, obviously that would include being honest about Adolf Hitler, as he is often discussed in these circles, and lying, or simply not caring about lies, would certainly cause division.
Konig The Skull Crusher
10 years ago
Ugh… is anyone else absolutely sick to the fucking teeth of this daniels guy and his mostly singular agenda yet? FOR FUCK’S SAKE PLEASE STOP!!!!!
I don’t have a singular agenda. However, it is a highly relevant topic to redress: Hitler’s over emphasis on life as “struggle” which takes human life as it actually is, mostly cooperative, and replaces it with excuse for inter-European war.
It is probably not a coincidence that the same over emphasis on war is inherent in Odinism.
You’re obviously the only one who cares about it so please for the love of [insert deity of choice] just STFU!
ewkeane
10 years ago
Saniels has a worldview that is centered on the flashpoint of WW2, Poland.
What was that thing in Poland that German and Soviet leaders viewed as some plumb ripe for picking?
I would like to know more about this Polish worldview.
It is thought by some that Hitler was the only contemporary man to have mastered the jew in the white mans relm, but did not in the long run by underestimating the english elite folk, and the power of the jew in america.
Even Stalin lost his life due to hebe machinations.
Here is the hebe play about it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82CgIebpn7M
I would be interested to hear a VTSaxon vs. DanielS debate here at Renegade.
daniels
10 years ago
I might be willing to debate JT Saxon. However, my views on it are delimited well enough here http://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/nazism_as_overstated_premise_of_white_nationalism_and_a_false_either_or – I have not seen any reason to revise this post recently; and contrary to what has been asserted, WWII is not a particular interest in mine. I’m as sick of hearing about it as anyone. I have groaned in disgust over how the issue is belabored and how some will not look forward in unity but seem rather to wish to fight this war over again, as Hitler had been determined to fight WWI over again – at least as one major feature of his motivation. I have represented the Polish (et. al) POV view of necessity, because the Nazi view has been over-represented in… Read more »
Is it just me, or is DanielS incredibly ignorant and as a result prejudiced towards Odinism?
Besides, which form and from what time period are referring to? You make wild and sweeping generalizations. If you are referring to ancient heathenry, the war aspect was but a minor part, and if you are referring to some it’s modern forms (since in the past they did not call themselves Odinists, as this was merely one of their gods), then you are, quite simply, wrong in what you say about it.
You say that referring to Adolf Hitler in a positive light is disrespectful, and yet you go on later to equate “Odinism”, whatever your conception, with semitic (and specifically abrahamic) faiths and religions.
“You say that referring to Adolf Hitler in a positive light is disrespectful,…”
I thought that I recalled seeing that in a comment of yours over at majorityrights. I could not locate it, perhaps I am mistaken. In any event, you insinuate it nonetheless.
Also, DanielS seems utterly incapable of making value judgments on very specific areas of focus in their proper historical context, clearly lacking when it comes to taking into consideration widely held attitudes and opinions from a particular time and place. Hindsight is 20/20, the notion that particular tribes and nations in the past could have been more tolerant of, accepting towards, or propositional (in the sense of proposing treaty and cooperation with) to each other is more than short sighted, lacking in insight and intuition, it is plain stupid. You talk about wanting to unify all whites, I don’t believe you. Perhaps you possess much knowledge, but you display very little wisdom, rendering what knowledge you do have of little use to the wider race.
Antiochus
10 years ago
ya enough of this – i am sick of it – no need to bash Hitler, if you don’t like no one is forcing you to worship the guy. leave it at that –
daniels
10 years ago
“Also, DanielS seems utterly incapable of making value judgments on very specific areas of focus in their proper historical context” Again, to you, “proper historical context” is what serves your adopted POV “clearly lacking when it comes tHindsight is 20/20, the notion that particular tribes and nations in the past could have been more tolerant of, accepting towards,” Wrong: I even stated clearly that it would not have been possible for Hitler, his mentality being what it was. “or propositional (in the sense of proposing treaty and cooperation with) to each other is more than short sighted, lacking in insight and intuition, it is plain stupid.” On the contrary, it would have been impossible to negotiate with Hitler. “You talk about wanting to unify all… Read more »
Once more: http://www.national-socialism.com/adolf-hitler-german-nationalist-or-aryan-racialist/ And, yet again: In a personal conversation with Artur Silgailis, chief of staff of Inspection General the Latvian Legion, the Latvian Waffen-SS, Heinrich Himmler outlined his future intentions with the SS and the organization of Europe: He [Himmler] then singled out those nations which he regarded as belonging to the German family of nations and they were: the Germans, the Dutch, the Flemish, the Anglo-Saxons, the Scandinavians and the Baltic people. ‘To combine all of these nations into one big family is the most important task at the present time’ [Himmler said]. ‘This unification has to take place on the principle of equality and at that same time has to secure the identity of each nation and its economical independence, of course,… Read more »
Allannah
10 years ago
daniels, you need to get out of that basement you’re very obviously in and try to meet a good woman. In fact a woman of ANY kind would probably be better for you at this stage of your life! It’s my observation over a period of time now that many people here are getting very sick of both your annoying over-the-top persistence & isolating attitudes – it really does appear to be bordering on psychotic whether you believe it to be otherwise or not. Please for your own mental health (and most certainly ours to a lesser degree!) shut the hell up for a while (at least) & get outdoors and live yourself some REAL LIFE man!!!
“The Polish/Jewish communist government was killing two to three thousand German civilians a week”.. I don’t think so. I understand that Goebbels had to scramble for a few examples of Germans being killed between 1900 and the start of the war. The Polish government fought vehemently against communism. Keep pursing the truth (Maybe Dana won’t, will continue to idealize Hitler, will continue to want to believe Nazi propaganda) but maybe others will see that it not nearly such clear cut issue as the Nazis being the good guys and all those in their path being Jew controlled communists.
The German-Polish war had come out of a quarrel over a town Danzig, the size of 1950 square Kilometers, population 408,000, 95 percent German, had been forcibly severed from Germany at Versailles in violation of Woodrow Wilson’s principle of self-determination. All world leaders and many British leaders thought Danzig should be returned as its 97.6% population had voted against forced union with Poland in the year 1919. Six years later, 72 million had perished. Britain was broken, bankrupt and Lost its Empire and consequently World Domination, France and Germany a smoldering ruin. By May 1945, Red Army hordes occupied all the great capitals of Central Europe: Vienna, Prague, Budapest, Berlin. A hundred million people were under the heel of the most barbarous tyranny in history:… Read more »
In response to JoeNorthpal Joe Northpal says: March 3, 2014 at 1:51 am “The German-Polish war had come out of a quarrel over a town Danzig.” No, it was not only about that. “the size of 1950 square Kilometers, population 408,000, 95 percent German” “It had been forcibly severed from Germany at Versailles in violation of Woodrow Wilson’s principle of self-determination.” My heart is bleeding. “All world leaders and many British leaders thought Danzig should be returned as its 97.6% population had voted against forced union with Poland in the year 1919.” It was a neutral city, not a union with Poland. Obviously not all world leaders thought it should be returned to Germany. “Six years later, 72 million had perished.” Thanks to the war… Read more »
“Six years later, 72 million had perished.”
Thanks to the war mongering of your god, Hitler.
I think we all now know where “daniels” stands. According to him, Hitler, not the jews, was responsible for WW2. Thanks again, moron.
By the way, this whole “Hitler is your god” “you worhsip (whatever that means) Hitler” meme is getting pretty old. Stop being jealous. http://hi-hater.webs.com/hi_hater2353.jpg
Funny how many Americans waking up to the lies can honestly say our grandparents were duped or just plain stupid enough to go and destroy (for a second time) Europe. We can look deep into the projected bright eyed innocence of our moral leaders and see the evil,.as well as look in the projected dark eyed villainous immoral German leaders and see virtue. Most of us have no lineage to Germany, but you Daniel anchor yourself down with faux nationalism borne from the one eyed trumpets of ambitious praetorians.
Too beautiful NOT to comment on. Now I have commented, haha.
http://www.national-socialism.com/adolf-hitler-german-nationalist-or-aryan-racialist/
Danzig and West Prussia were German; stolen from Germany and placed under Polish rule after World War I.
Polish Marshal / Political Leader Edward Rydz-Smigły was emboldened by Roosevelt’s assurances.
Hitler’s protection of Germans in Poland triggered World War II.
The Katyn Forest massacre was NOT done by the Germans.
The fact is that if the Germans had prevailed during World War ii, we would not be suffering under the present jewish Usury based economic system. This is a simple fact.
We would also not be having the frequent chimpouts and knockout games that we are at present.
There were no gas chambers.
The Germans were, in fact, the good guys.
Hear, hear. And at this point it is all so obvious to people like you and I. Not to mention that the Soviets would have sooner or later invaded Poland anyhow. The Polish people were largely caught in the middle. @Daniels Haha, if you can’t idealize a man such as the Great Adolf Hitler, who can you take inspiration from, other than oneself, of course. These crackers be all jealous of the Great German Hero.
Actually Danzig was under League of Nations protection, the whole issue was a rail link and or highway to it from Germany across the former German territory (now the Polish corridor created for Poland’s access to the sea.). The Germans in the Free City of Danzig were being systematically starved of fuel and food during the 1920’s especially during France Occupation of the Ruhr over German inability to meet war reparations. While German gold and property (including livestock down to the last chickens) was being swilled by the jew backed victors of WW1, newly formed Poland would not even extend credit for rail transport of emergency supplies, extracted exorbitant late penalty fees, demanded payment in gold or state conversion of falling mark into the new… Read more »
In response to Northpal, who says: March 3, 2014 at 11:47 am “Actually Danzig was under League of Nations protection” Right. “The whole issue was a rail link and or highway to it from Germany across the former German territory (now the Polish corridor created for Poland’s access to the sea.)” The Nazis claimed that was the whole issue. Only a fool would believe it. More, they had access to Danzig by sea and air. The Polish government considered it insane to have a German highway running through its country. Germany would too. “The Germans in the Free City of Danzig were being systematically starved of fuel and food during the 1920′s especially during France Occupation of the Ruhr over German inability to meet war… Read more »
All of history is war. All nations are founded upon conquest. You make the same excuses for Poland that others make for Germany. What is the difference?
The difference is that you view Hitler and Germany as unquestionably perfect – which is ridiculous.
Except you don’t know what my view is. That’s the problem.
A person can’t have made mistakes, had failures, and, perhaps in your mind, “unfairly” offended and invaded another peoples, without still being worthy of being called “Great” and a “Hero”? What is required of a man in order to be deemed heroic to HIS people, or great even in the minds of those he went after. Tell the Polish racialists and nationalists to stop appropriating National Socialist aesthetic and ideology, then, if you’re position is that Hitler was a bad guy, and the Poles were innocent and beyond reproach. I think all white European folk have a right to admire Hitler, and even to criticize him. However, you’re view of the Poles is no different than many’s view of the Germans. That they did absolutely… Read more »
LONG LIVE POLAND! LONG LIVE GERMANY!
You call everyone who defends Hitler a worshipper of him. Since you are defending Poland, I guess that means you worship Poland, which I personally would have no problem with. I have no moral issue with jews thinking they are better than everyone (except for the results that their own particular form of supremacism has had on the world e.g. on the environment, animals, children etc.). That doesn’t mean I do not oppose them since that ends up conflicting with my own interests. That part of history (the invasion of Poland), I freely acknowledge is complex and beyond my present understanding. I also freely admit that I am a liar and a hypocrite. You, on the other hand, continue to do exactly what you claim… Read more »
The Opposite is true. As time goes on, and this phase of correction of absolute vilification has past, the idealization of Hitler will be diminished and people will accept that his flaws and see other sides such that he does not merit holding up as a representative of WN. I never said that Poles and Poland are perfect. It is difficult to go into nuance, however, with Nazi advocates, because I’d be the only one accounting for errors in judgment. Sorry, but that is my experience, “Hitler can do no wrong, the only victims were Germans.” There is nothing wrong with defending Germans and Germany: I do and help them, whenever possible; but you really should understand that Hitler is just too divisive on balance.… Read more »
“Good propaganda does not need to lie, indeed it may not lie. It has no reason to fear the truth. It is a mistake to believe that people cannot take the truth. They can. It is only a matter of presenting the truth to people in a way that they will be able to understand. A propaganda that lies proves that it has a bad cause. It cannot be successful in the long run.” (Goebbels at Nuremberg Rally, 1934)
That Goebbels needed to lie in order to justify Germany’s actions was and remains to this day a common jewish and allied (all lied, all lies) meme.
Oh yeah, the Nazis would never lie – ha ha ha! Tom in CT says: March 2, 2014 at 1:01 pm “Danzig and West Prussia were German; stolen from Germany and placed under Polish rule after World War I.” That just goes to show how little you know the facts of that History. Danzig was neutral, not Polish. And Poland reclaimed only a tiny piece of what was west Prussia – land stolen from the Poles; rightfully took back their ancient capital of Poznan and access to the sea (lands stolen from them by Friedrich the Great asshole). “Polish Marshal / Political Leader Edward Rydz-Smigły was emboldened by Roosevelt’s assurances” He may have been and the war my have been avoided, beginning by Germany recognizing… Read more »
Haha, talk about getting real. Give me a break. Waaah, what a joke.
Ha ha Hitler is dead, no more Friedrich the Great fetishism. No more golden showers from his niece.
HAHAHA!!! Thank you for so easily revealing yourself!
^^^This comment was meant as a reply here. I am re-posting it in case someone else decides to comment and mine get’s lost in the shuffle.
While I’m at it:
“ Not to mention that the Soviets would have sooner or later invaded Poland anyhow.”
They already had and Poland already fought them.
German Invasion of Poland
1 September – 6 October 1939
Soviet Invasion of Poland
17 September – 6 October 1939
No one here is talking about the Polish-Soviet War.
Poland’s will to fight the Soviets had been made clear, retard.
Wow, what lousy context.
Last comment on this show. I’ll let others do the rest.
I would turn Adolf Hitler into a graven image and bow, even kneel, before it, long before I would ever parrot the jew lie (Walter Charles Langer ((http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Charles_Langer)), he was Jewish on his mother’s side) that Hitler liked to be pissed and shit on by his niece. You sir, are worthless.
woops, one more link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mind_of_Adolf_Hitler
HaHaHA. Thank you for so easily revealing yourself!
Kyle, are the banners en route?
Thank goodness Daniel, SOMEONE is talking some sense to these simple minded Hitler adorers. i have found they can’t listen to intelligent argument though, they need everything nicely black and white for the narrow thinking of their propogandarized minds. All information that they don’t like, they simply disregard, and you are shunned for bringing it up. For instance, your not allowed to mention the fact that the word Nazi is actually taken from the word Ashkenazi, as in Ashkenasi Jews. The Ashkenazi Jews that came from the Roman empire, to ressurect Rome in Europe. Hitler was separating the lowly Sephardic Jews, from the Ashkenazi Jews. The Ashkenazi Jews include all the Brittish royal family, who are German in Origin. They believe they are descendants of… Read more »
God, you’re stupid, Emily. Go back to Alex Jones and talking about robots and bible codes. They didn’t refer to themselves as Nazis (except in the case of Goebbels’s Der Nazi-Sozi, which presumably was something of an attempt to do what the groids did with the word nigger, except w/o altering it). As if you’re even capable of intelligent argument.
In response to blutuboden: blutundboden says: “Six years later, 72 million had perished.” Thanks to the war mongering of your god, Hitler Yes, it was within his power to Not go to war. But it was not within his emotional control. He was enamored of Friedrich the Great, his militarism, that of the Teutonic Knights, the intransigent wish to re-fight World War I, etc. Der Blutenboden says “I think we all now know where “daniels” stands. According to him, Hitler, not the jews, was responsible for WW2. Thanks again, moron.” Not exactly, idiot, I think that Germany was abused horribly by Jews and the Treaty of Versailles; that was “the cause” of Hitler’s overcompensating militarism, German chauvinism and imperialism. “blutundboden goes on to add: By… Read more »
Again, thank you.
Don’t quote me on this exactly but I’m pretty sure Adolf Hitler said something along the lines of that he would be regarded in a new light in the (not-too-distant) future. Regardless of all the “that was then, this is now” naysayers (retards who only want you to regard THEIR history as relevant) I’d say that Mein Kampf being the most popular book on Amazon in 2013 is at least a sign of that starting. All this other stuff from the the likes of DanielS (should we feed him to the lions?) and especially from Emily (“YOUR” IS NOT THE SAME AS “YOU’RE” GODDAMMIT!!!), is really just bloviating distraction from retards (I make no apology for using non-pc descriptions) who “think” they have a better… Read more »
Daniels and Emily are such judiazed anti-german retards is hard to even laugh at such anti-German bigots. Plz, unkosher your minds people.
Well, I cannot speak for Emily, but I certainly am not anti German.
Could you please site the source of the information about Hitlers perversions?
It is a popular notion that Hitler was an avitar, sent to earth to help men thrive and be happy on earth. He was no match for the devil of the world at that time, but the memory of Hitler persists, maybe for a thousand years! Hitlers words are all over the internet, in many languages. Perhaps, it is Hitler that is making people jew wise today? 14/88
And now for the music! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mp4aOABbsI
This painting was done the year Adolf Hitler was born: http://slavyanskaya-kultura.ru/images/1335697002-160983–rsrsrrrrrrrryor.jpg During WW1 Adolf Hitler wrote the following poem: I often go on bitter nights To Wotan’s oak on the quiet glade With dark powers to weave a union – The runic letters the moon makes with its magic spell And all who are full of impudence during the day Are made small by the magic formula! They draw shining steel – but instead of going into combat They solidify into stalagmites. So the false ones part from the real ones – I reach into a nest of words And then give the good and just With my formula blessings and prosperity. Dr. C.G. Jung’s essay “Wotan”: http://www.philosopher.eu/others-writings/essay-on-wotan-w-nietzsche-c-g-jung/ I am going to do a pre-recorded… Read more »
That is a disturbing painting. Who is the artist?
Franz von Stuck. He had two paintings that were both titled “Die Wilde Jagd”, which can mean either “The Wild Hunt” or “The Wild Chase”. When translated into English, the one I posted is referred to as “The Wild Chase”, and the other as “The Wild Hunt”.
I am posting this a second time because I made the mistake of not entering it in as a reply. Sorry about that, Renegade Moderators.
Franz von Stuck. He had two paintings that were both titled “Die Wilde Jagd”, which can mean either “The Wild Hunt” or “The Wild Chase”. When translated into English, the one I posted is referred to as “The Wild Chase”, and the other as “The Wild Hunt”.
Since this blutunboden guy was allowed to have the last word here, I take the matter to my court.
Sure,the context is “lousy” when it doesn’t serve your idealization of ehem ehem and his regime, a view of history that suited them – that bullshit is surely getting old.
This whole idiotic Pat Buchanatard view of “the unnecessary war” frames matters after the fact, where Poland’s staunch anti-Soviet position had been ignored and its sovereignty violated.
Is it any wonder that his view would wish to cut he conversation off at this inconvenient detail?
http://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/nazism_as_overstated_premise_of_white_nationalism_and_a_false_either_or
If it really came down to it, I would, of course, simply say “Fuck Poland”. Then what would you do?
Goddamnit, why can’t I remember to hit the reply button before entering in a response!
In response to my last comment, DanielS, “welcome”. To the real world that is. Do you understand yet how the world functions? You would think, especially when one takes into consideration all of that posturing drivel over at majoritykikes.com Anyhow: In a personal conversation with Artur Silgailis, chief of staff of Inspection General the Latvian Legion, the Latvian Waffen-SS, Heinrich Himmler outlined his future intentions with the SS and the organization of Europe: “He [Himmler] then singled out those nations which he regarded as belonging to the German family of nations and they were: the Germans, the Dutch, the Flemish, the Anglo-Saxons, the Scandinavians and the Baltic people. ‘To combine all of these nations into one big family is the most important task at the… Read more »
Would someone please read his article and tell me what THEY think? Here is a pathetic article from another contributor over there, they agreed with his article and posted this link: http://www.majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/the_ghosts_of_the_past where Hitler is referred to as a draft-dodger, a snitch, and a “sickly-looking Austrian” (it’s not called majoritykikes for nothing). Hah, and they claim to be merely attempting to unite white people, good luck with your current strategy. I would really appreciate reading a response from someone more informed than myself. I do not have the present knowledge or time to make a rebuttal to his perspective in the manner he presents it. I would not care if he were correct, as all of history is war, all nations were founded upon conquest,… Read more »
“His” article is the one he posted above, this one: http://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/nazism_as_overstated_premise_of_white_nationalism_and_a_false_either_or
Under “About this website” section, they make a point to state this:
“We explore various issues related to the preservation of Western culture and the ethnic genetic interests (EGI) of people of European ancestry. This site does not argue that the EGI and cultural concerns of non-European people are less important than those of people of European ancestry.”
“This site does not argue that the EGI and cultural concerns of non-European people are less important than those of people of European ancestry.”
^^^ Really? Defending yourself against charges of thinking your interests are “more important” (whatever that means)?
Why not trust the point of view of one who chooses to not overly sympathize with the Axis point of view? I can sympathize some, but realize that on balance that they screwed-up massively. They drew their interests too narrowly and they overcompensated – its clear. More, I do not agree with this statement: “This site does not argue that the EGI and cultural concerns of non-European people are less important than those of people of European ancestry.” Maybe that is the site’s position, but it is not mine. However, I do not know of anybody who calls the site “majoritykikes” besides you. I cannot vouch for all of Dr. Lister’s point of view, even in that article, but I do appreciate his stance against… Read more »
DanielS- “Get used to it – that’s the truth (which you only pretend to care about) that will come to be understood as the truth is cared for.” And yet, earlier from him: “Ha ha Hitler is dead, no more Friedrich the Great fetishism. No more golden showers from his niece.” and “His niece could pee on his ugly face all she wanted as far as I am concerned.” You echo the jew lie that Adolf Hitler liked to be pissed on by his niece (walter c. langer was a jew http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Charles_Langer and this notion originates in his work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mind_of_Adolf_Hitler ), all the while attempting to demonstrate that you are somehow driven only out of concern for truth, thereby providing anecdotal evidence as to the… Read more »
The lousy context is referring to 1921 Poland (without further contextual argument or discussion as to why this was mentioned) when discussing Poland’s political realities 18 years later!
I’d tell Brian and he would creep into your room as a ” bed intruder”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lvnmwGFugc
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Thank you, Luther. LOL. What a video! You made my day a good one.
If Brian cannot figure out the context that statement was made in and the point it was meant to convey about the irrational nature of man and tribal identity over cold, boring, so-called objective, hyper-rationalism, then that would be too bad. I have more respect for, and higher-expectations of him than that, though.
When I say “If it really came down to it”, he ought to know what is meant by that. I am speaking of hypotheticals, of course. Also, I believe that “if it really came down to it”, he would himself say “Fuck Germany”. These truths are acceptable to me. I am able to get over them. I have little respect for those who cannot themselves.
And do not forget, I posted that in the wrong place. It is repeated above in it’s proper place and context. You must locate it and read “all” in order to understand. If you cannot understand, I am unable help you (not you, Luther, I mean anyone reading this).
What is so stupid about this Hitler advocacy is that it is clearly going to create enemies among Whites who can so easily be allied. It is the most simple conceptual move to say: we advocate all people of native European descent, respecting the maintenance of their discreet kinds and nations, though not having a major problem with some blending of Europeans. However, Jews are not native Europeans and they are chief among our adversaries; we seek separatism from them and all non-native Europeans. We can have the best of both worlds, taking what worked from the past economic policies, etc and leaving behind what did not work along with the stigma of Hitler and Reich imagery; taking on a new identity based on inter-European… Read more »
“What is so stupid about this Hitler advocacy is that it is clearly going to create enemies among Whites who can so easily be allied.” Sorry, DanielS, but it is more than obvious that his potential for UNIFYING educated, jew-wise, pro-whites far surpasses his potential to divide them (we are only talking about reverence, not worship. You seem incapable of understanding the difference). You are in the minority, and history will not bare out your misguided presumptions (if whites in America were ever to become enlightened in regards the jew, you would certainly be in a sorry state trying to deter them all from giving Hitler his just due). Your conception of Adolf Hitler clearly conflicts with your own self-ego, and I am sorry you… Read more »
Sorry Bultenbolden, but you are wrong. “Sorry, DanielS, but it is more than obvious that his potential for UNIFYING educated, jew-wise, pro-whites far surpasses his potential to divide them “ Wrong. It may seem that way in your clique, but you will see. “(we are only talking about reverence, not worship. You seem incapable of understanding the difference).” This difference is not important. I may as well have said “anyone stupid and tactless enough to ‘revere’ Hitler. “You are in the minority,” No, I am not. You are in a vast minority. And the sooner you see it, the better. “ and history will not bare out your misguided presumptions (if whites in America were ever to become enlightened in regards the jew, you would… Read more »
Dude, fucking give it up already. I am an individual saying these things, but am not the only one. Amongst jew-wise, pro-whites you ARE the minority. That is why you work tirelessly to convince others, whereas I came along not having to convince anyone, they ALREADY held similar views. I am not affiliated, nor do I have connections or ties to anyone. I belong to NO group, or clique as you call it.
“In truth, I don’t know and don’t care if this bit about his golden showers is true or not. I meant to illustrate that I do not respect Hitler.”
Exactly, thank you for proving my point and disproving your own claims of objectivity.
“…disproving your own claims of objectivity.” as regards your perspective on what is the best outlook for European peoples to take, as was the intention of the aforementioned quote.
Saying that Adolf Hitler had an ugly mug and liked to be urinated on CLEARLY demonstrates your objective desire to put forth a perspective best suited for European (in the racial sense) survival. HA HA HA.
Clearly I am advocating Whites, yes. Hitler was a force of inter-European war and destruction. He cared predominantly about Germans, and was quite willing to make Europeans into mass casualties.
I did not claim to be motivated by sheer objectivity, moron. You claim Hitler should be revered. Read Mein Kampf and see that its underlying “philosophy” is largely a false justification for ongoing, intransigent, vastly destructive inter-European war. The clique that I referred to are those who want to maintain a reverence for Hitler and his imagery.
Upon further reflection, I would say that among jew-wise, pro-whites, we are both in the minority. Most people are far more neutral. I revere him, you denigrate him. However, in regards these two minority camps, I would say there are more who have mostly positive things to say, as opposed to mostly negative.
If I could redo the post, I would not have called you a “moron” because you show signs of ability to cooperate on behalf of Whites (and hopefully see the impracticality of Hitler’s world view for that purpose); and I would not want to contribute to driving you into an intransigent maintenance of all things Hitler because I had referred to you personally in insulting terms.
However, your persistence in accusing me of feigning to be motivated by sheer objectivism is particularly annoying as I have been as vocal if not more vocal than anyone in WN in arguing against that pretense: http://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/leftism_as_a_code_word_part_1_the_white_left
At no point did I accuse you of pretending to be motivated by sheer objectivism. That would indicate I claimed you falsely put forth the notion that you attempt to be objective in ALL possible matters. I never did. You’re claiming that I did is what is annoying and absurd. I was very specific as to my accusation. ““…disproving your own claims of objectivity.” as regards your perspective on what is the best outlook (edit: or strategy) for European peoples to take, as was the intention of the aforementioned quote.” “Saying that Adolf Hitler had an ugly mug and liked to be urinated on CLEARLY demonstrates your objective desire to put forth a perspective best suited for European (in the racial sense) survival. HA HA… Read more »
“In truth, I don’t know and don’t care if this bit about his golden showers is true or not. I meant to illustrate that I do not respect Hitler.”
Exactly, thank you for proving my point and disproving your own claims of objectivity.
^^^ Clearly, all of this still fits with everything I just clarified, the notion that you claim to be interested in truth as regards what the best strategy for white survival is. If you were interested in what method was best for white survival, obviously that would include being honest about Adolf Hitler, as he is often discussed in these circles, and lying, or simply not caring about lies, would certainly cause division.
Ugh… is anyone else absolutely sick to the fucking teeth of this daniels guy and his mostly singular agenda yet? FOR FUCK’S SAKE PLEASE STOP!!!!!
I don’t have a singular agenda. However, it is a highly relevant topic to redress: Hitler’s over emphasis on life as “struggle” which takes human life as it actually is, mostly cooperative, and replaces it with excuse for inter-European war.
It is probably not a coincidence that the same over emphasis on war is inherent in Odinism.
You’re obviously the only one who cares about it so please for the love of [insert deity of choice] just STFU!
Saniels has a worldview that is centered on the flashpoint of WW2, Poland.
What was that thing in Poland that German and Soviet leaders viewed as some plumb ripe for picking?
I would like to know more about this Polish worldview.
It is thought by some that Hitler was the only contemporary man to have mastered the jew in the white mans relm, but did not in the long run by underestimating the english elite folk, and the power of the jew in america.
Even Stalin lost his life due to hebe machinations.
Here is the hebe play about it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82CgIebpn7M
I would be interested to hear a VTSaxon vs. DanielS debate here at Renegade.
I might be willing to debate JT Saxon. However, my views on it are delimited well enough here http://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/nazism_as_overstated_premise_of_white_nationalism_and_a_false_either_or – I have not seen any reason to revise this post recently; and contrary to what has been asserted, WWII is not a particular interest in mine. I’m as sick of hearing about it as anyone. I have groaned in disgust over how the issue is belabored and how some will not look forward in unity but seem rather to wish to fight this war over again, as Hitler had been determined to fight WWI over again – at least as one major feature of his motivation. I have represented the Polish (et. al) POV view of necessity, because the Nazi view has been over-represented in… Read more »
Is it just me, or is DanielS incredibly ignorant and as a result prejudiced towards Odinism?
Besides, which form and from what time period are referring to? You make wild and sweeping generalizations. If you are referring to ancient heathenry, the war aspect was but a minor part, and if you are referring to some it’s modern forms (since in the past they did not call themselves Odinists, as this was merely one of their gods), then you are, quite simply, wrong in what you say about it.
You say that referring to Adolf Hitler in a positive light is disrespectful, and yet you go on later to equate “Odinism”, whatever your conception, with semitic (and specifically abrahamic) faiths and religions.
“You say that referring to Adolf Hitler in a positive light is disrespectful,…”
I thought that I recalled seeing that in a comment of yours over at majorityrights. I could not locate it, perhaps I am mistaken. In any event, you insinuate it nonetheless.
Also, DanielS seems utterly incapable of making value judgments on very specific areas of focus in their proper historical context, clearly lacking when it comes to taking into consideration widely held attitudes and opinions from a particular time and place. Hindsight is 20/20, the notion that particular tribes and nations in the past could have been more tolerant of, accepting towards, or propositional (in the sense of proposing treaty and cooperation with) to each other is more than short sighted, lacking in insight and intuition, it is plain stupid. You talk about wanting to unify all whites, I don’t believe you. Perhaps you possess much knowledge, but you display very little wisdom, rendering what knowledge you do have of little use to the wider race.
ya enough of this – i am sick of it – no need to bash Hitler, if you don’t like no one is forcing you to worship the guy. leave it at that –
“Also, DanielS seems utterly incapable of making value judgments on very specific areas of focus in their proper historical context” Again, to you, “proper historical context” is what serves your adopted POV “clearly lacking when it comes tHindsight is 20/20, the notion that particular tribes and nations in the past could have been more tolerant of, accepting towards,” Wrong: I even stated clearly that it would not have been possible for Hitler, his mentality being what it was. “or propositional (in the sense of proposing treaty and cooperation with) to each other is more than short sighted, lacking in insight and intuition, it is plain stupid.” On the contrary, it would have been impossible to negotiate with Hitler. “You talk about wanting to unify all… Read more »
Once more: http://www.national-socialism.com/adolf-hitler-german-nationalist-or-aryan-racialist/ And, yet again: In a personal conversation with Artur Silgailis, chief of staff of Inspection General the Latvian Legion, the Latvian Waffen-SS, Heinrich Himmler outlined his future intentions with the SS and the organization of Europe: He [Himmler] then singled out those nations which he regarded as belonging to the German family of nations and they were: the Germans, the Dutch, the Flemish, the Anglo-Saxons, the Scandinavians and the Baltic people. ‘To combine all of these nations into one big family is the most important task at the present time’ [Himmler said]. ‘This unification has to take place on the principle of equality and at that same time has to secure the identity of each nation and its economical independence, of course,… Read more »
daniels, you need to get out of that basement you’re very obviously in and try to meet a good woman. In fact a woman of ANY kind would probably be better for you at this stage of your life! It’s my observation over a period of time now that many people here are getting very sick of both your annoying over-the-top persistence & isolating attitudes – it really does appear to be bordering on psychotic whether you believe it to be otherwise or not. Please for your own mental health (and most certainly ours to a lesser degree!) shut the hell up for a while (at least) & get outdoors and live yourself some REAL LIFE man!!!
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